Is that really what it says? DHARMA? At first it looked something like "CHATHA"... Well if everything in the Hatch it circa 1970s-80s, it'd be the right time for a company/organization to name itself Dharma.
Yep, on the ones I have seen it does say Dharma and if you look it up the definitions fit into the plot well.
1. Hinduism & Buddhism.
A. The principle or law that orders the universe. B. Individual conduct in conformity with this principle. C. The essential function or nature of a thing.
2. Hinduism.
A. Individual obligation with respect to caste, social custom, civil law, and sacred law.
3. Buddhism. A. The body of teachings expounded by the Buddha. B. Knowledge of or duty to undertake conduct set forth by the Buddha as a way to enlightenment. 3. One of the basic, minute elements from which all things are made
Woah - hang on - I love that you're as detail-oriented as I am, but honestly, these are just random pics off a random site that has nothing to do with Lost. I can accept the idea of numbers being connected, but the pic at the bottom is just the one that was attached to the quote. It's probably already a huge stretch to connect buddhism without me proclaiming that I've found the secret missing 'bear' symbol!
Wow - good eye - I completely overlooked how much that looks like a yin-yang there in the center of the logo! And look! The blocks that radiate from the center have exactly the same divisions!! Any idea what the characters translate into?
I Ching is the "Book of Changes" an ancient Chinese text based around a set of hexagrams (6 horizontal lines stacked vertically). Each line is either a solid line, representing yang or a broken line, representing yin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching
The middle of the logo looks more like a swan to me. Isn't the swan used as some kind of symbol in Korea? My first impression of the whole thing was that it was Korean.
Very interesting stuff. According to the i ching wikipidia, the 8 symbols (trigrams) represent heaven, earth, fire, water, thunder, wind, mountain, and swamp. Jin and Sun might recognize the symbols as 4 of them and the ying/yang appear on the S. Korean flag.
Okay - so just a fast disclaimer - None of what we're throwing around here is proabably connected.
That being said, it is absolutely uncanny how many connections there are between things that up until now, seemed to be only random details linked only by the fact that they appeared on the same episode of a TV show we all happen to watch. It makes you start to question the sense of being sensible in your conclusions.
It is a Cobra embedded within the Dharma logo which splits Ying and Yang (symbolic of harmony separated by evil)
In Yi Jing, Pa Kua is tells us there are eight phenomena among us, suspending in the Universe. What is Pa Kua? In the direct translation, Pa means eight (8) and Kua means suspending or hanging. Instead calling them the eight phenomena, they were referred as Pa Kua.
I think the symbol looks more like a swan, but it's all in the eye of the beholder it could be a cobra or snake also. More swan like because botom left is more like body of swan, cobras dont get thicker in the bottom. But they dont expecty you to relly get a great look at it because they show it quickly.
The thing that gets me is its 'tongue'. I mean there's clearly either something sticking out of this "swan's" beak or the "snake" just killed and ate something.
Not to steal your sunshine samadhi_gal, but look at my thread again, I had a huge brainstorm I want you all to see. Work with it see if you can get anything to fit. Thanks.
All roads lead to Dharma (and wikipedia)? Meanings and Origins of the word Dharma as described on wikipedia. Extremely vague and in the context of 'Lost', more vague than the hatch itself.
Dharma(sanskrit, roughly law or way) is the way of the higher Truths. Beings that live in harmony with Dharma proceed quicker towards moksha, nirvana or personal liberation, a concept central in eastern religions . This hints that Dharma is the existance of "everything as we know it". The basic 8 I-Ching symbols references support this (earth, wind, fire ... and the Commodores). So, just good logo design, really, by including those symbols, as they essentially represent "everything".
My favorite part from wikipedia definition is how "Dharma may be used to refer to rules of comportment in an ethical system." It helps to follow the whole redemption theory where everyone is here to make up for their previous mistakes.
one aspect of I Ching is that it deals in balance of oposites, um, light and dark anyone? locke's eyes in claire's vision, the backgammon conversation?
also can anyone get a capture of jack's tattoo? i am sure it has some of this imagary on it?
This screencap of the logo on the shark was posted at another Lost forum. It seems it's actually different than the one we've been seeing. The white curve/'swan' in the middle looks like a straight line in this one, and the Asian characters seem different or placed in different order.
Originally posted by Nevik: 2 things that made me think..
also can anyone get a capture of jack's tattoo? i am sure it has some of this imagary on it?
Supposedly those are Fox's own tattoos but I've read on another site that they (the writers) are going to try to make them fit in with the show since so many people are interested in them.
I think I remember reading that those are his actual tattoos, so if they are not there in flashbacks, they must have put makeup over them, and plan to use them in the show perhaps.
We now know that a swan splits the the yin-yang in the Dharma logo. I have read on other sites about the difference between the logo in the hatch and the logo on the shark (continuity, production mistake, etc...) From last night's episode, can we now assume that the shark (and polar bear?) are part of another part of the experiment, perhaps biological, with a slightly different logo. They appear above in tht thread. Any ideas what it could be?
hotupakua.gif (2 Kb, 5 downloads) Earlier Version Pa Kua
pakua.jpg (35 Kb, 21 downloads) Pa Kua Map
