Filmfodder Forums
Pop Culture Conversations
Filmfodder    Filmfodder Forums    Filmfodder Forums  Hop To Forum Categories  Lost    Close-up of Hatch Logo

Moderators: trustno1
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
-star Rating Rate It!  Login/Join 
Esteemed Member
Picture of samadhi_gal
Posted


Alright, if this doesn't show up, the url is: http://lost.cubit.net/pics/hatchLogo.jpg

Now check this out courtesy of K8:

A picture of the I Ching symbol.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: samadhi_gal,
 
Posts: 58 | Registered: 03 June 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Wicked Awesome Member
Picture of lostedblonde
Posted Hide Post
Great shot!

I read somewhere that the Dharma labrynth was a symbol for alternate realities.

Can anyone confirm this?
 
Posts: 509 | Registered: 24 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Esteemed Member
Picture of samadhi_gal
Posted Hide Post


And a pic of the shark's tail (logo doubled because of frame speed).
 
Posts: 58 | Registered: 03 June 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Wicked Awesome Member
Picture of lostedblonde
Posted Hide Post
I found this for those of you who are having trouble seeing under the shark.

http://www.sdintegrators.com/media/shark.jpg
 
Posts: 509 | Registered: 24 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Esteemed Member
Picture of samadhi_gal
Posted Hide Post
Is that really what it says? DHARMA? At first it looked something like "CHATHA"... Well if everything in the Hatch it circa 1970s-80s, it'd be the right time for a company/organization to name itself Dharma.
 
Posts: 58 | Registered: 03 June 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Wicked Awesome Member
Picture of lostedblonde
Posted Hide Post
Yep, on the ones I have seen it does say Dharma and if you look it up the definitions fit into the plot well.

1. Hinduism & Buddhism.

A. The principle or law that orders the universe.
B. Individual conduct in conformity with this principle.
C. The essential function or nature of a thing.

2. Hinduism.

A. Individual obligation with respect to caste, social custom, civil law, and sacred law.

3. Buddhism.
A. The body of teachings expounded by the Buddha.
B. Knowledge of or duty to undertake conduct set forth by the Buddha as a way to enlightenment.
3. One of the basic, minute elements from which all things are made
 
Posts: 509 | Registered: 24 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Esteemed Member
Picture of samadhi_gal
Posted Hide Post
Alright, going off of some 'Dharma' research, check this out:



This pic of a Sarva wheel is on a website that has the following buddhist motto:
"Nature is Logos... Logos is Logic... All is Number."
 
Posts: 58 | Registered: 03 June 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Wicked Awesome Member
Picture of lostedblonde
Posted Hide Post
quote:
All is Number



ARGH!! More with the numbers.

Please tell me that third little symbol is not a bear! The last little symbol looks like a mountain. Hmmm...
 
Posts: 509 | Registered: 24 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Esteemed Member
Picture of samadhi_gal
Posted Hide Post
Woah - hang on - I love that you're as detail-oriented as I am, but honestly, these are just random pics off a random site that has nothing to do with Lost. I can accept the idea of numbers being connected, but the pic at the bottom is just the one that was attached to the quote. It's probably already a huge stretch to connect buddhism without me proclaiming that I've found the secret missing 'bear' symbol!

***Puts aside sanity, logic, reason, etc***
Although...
 
Posts: 58 | Registered: 03 June 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
k8
Member
Posted Hide Post
Looks like the I Ching to me. And of course, it's all about numbers...
 
Posts: 3 | Registered: 29 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Esteemed Member
Picture of samadhi_gal
Posted Hide Post
Wow - good eye - I completely overlooked how much that looks like a yin-yang there in the center of the logo! And look! The blocks that radiate from the center have exactly the same divisions!! Any idea what the characters translate into?
 
Posts: 58 | Registered: 03 June 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Wicked Awesome Member
Picture of lostedblonde
Posted Hide Post
quote:
but the pic at the bottom is just the one that was attached to the quote


Yes, but if the writers are using religion as part of the LOST foundation, it would fit in wouldn't it.

They have already started using mythology with Apollo candybars so why not religion since they have had that since the start?
 
Posts: 509 | Registered: 24 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
k8
Member
Posted Hide Post
I Ching is the "Book of Changes" an ancient Chinese text based around a set of hexagrams (6 horizontal lines stacked vertically). Each line is either a solid line, representing yang or a broken line, representing yin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching
 
Posts: 3 | Registered: 29 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
k8
Member
Posted Hide Post
The characters translate into numbers. The URL below shows each in the logo translated, plus some.
http://www.kheper.net/topics/I_Ching/hexagrams.htm
 
Posts: 3 | Registered: 29 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Esteemed Member
Posted Hide Post
The middle of the logo isn't the Ying Yang, it's the Loch Ness Monster!! What it really is is a swan...
 
Posts: 88 | Registered: 24 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Esteemed Member
Posted Hide Post
The middle of the logo looks more like a swan to me. Isn't the swan used as some kind of symbol in Korea? My first impression of the whole thing was that it was Korean.
 
Posts: 83 | Registered: 04 June 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Esteemed Member
Picture of neuman212
Posted Hide Post
Very interesting stuff. According to the i ching wikipidia, the 8 symbols (trigrams) represent heaven, earth, fire, water, thunder, wind, mountain, and swamp.
Jin and Sun might recognize the symbols as 4 of them and the ying/yang appear on the S. Korean flag.
 
Posts: 93 | Registered: 01 August 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
The trigrams in an octagon represent the "Ba Gua" which is a symbol of safety and protection.

I thought it was a snake, not a swan, but check this link out:

http://www.cinnabarswan.com/fengshui.htm

Swan, geodesic dome, bagua...
 
Posts: 20 | Registered: 20 July 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Senior Member
Posted Hide Post
I thought it was a snake, not a swan, but check this link out:

http://www.cinnabarswan.com/fengshui.htm

Swan, geodesic dome, bagua...[/QUOTE]

Somehow, looking at Desmond's choice of decor (old buckets filled with who knows what; graffiti), I don't think he's so interested in Feng shui. Smiler
 
Posts: 141 | Registered: 23 May 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Esteemed Member
Picture of samadhi_gal
Posted Hide Post
Okay - so just a fast disclaimer - None of what we're throwing around here is proabably connected.

That being said, it is absolutely uncanny how many connections there are between things that up until now, seemed to be only random details linked only by the fact that they appeared on the same episode of a TV show we all happen to watch. It makes you start to question the sense of being sensible in your conclusions.

Buddha - nice find.
 
Posts: 58 | Registered: 03 June 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
Pa Kua Anyone?

It is a Cobra embedded within the Dharma logo which splits Ying and Yang (symbolic of harmony separated by evil)

In Yi Jing, Pa Kua is tells us there are eight phenomena among us, suspending in the Universe. What is Pa Kua? In the direct translation, Pa means eight (8) and Kua means suspending or hanging. Instead calling them the eight phenomena, they were referred as Pa Kua.

I have paraphrased this information from the following site: http://www.kheper.net/topics/I_Ching/trigrams.htm[/URL] make sure you scroll down to the bottom of the page to review the diagram and relative positioning.

Is a religous allegory beginning to surface? I have my thoughts on the topic but am not yet fully convinced that is the path to follow.

Look forward to your thoughts.
 
Posts: 5 | Registered: 29 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Esteemed Member
Picture of samadhi_gal
Posted Hide Post
Hey Mike, this is a geat site! Just let me re-post the link here so it opens properly:

http://www.kheper.net/topics/I_Ching/trigrams.htm
 
Posts: 58 | Registered: 03 June 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
Based on the site in the previous post, the placement of the symbols in the Dharma logo corresponds to the "Earlier Version Pa Kua"

Imagehotupakua.gif (2 Kb, 5 downloads) Earlier Version Pa Kua
 
Posts: 2 | Registered: 29 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
oops, I meant the "Later Version Pa Kua."
 
Posts: 2 | Registered: 29 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Picture of TsoL
Posted Hide Post
I think the symbol looks more like a swan, but it's all in the eye of the beholder it could be a cobra or snake also. More swan like because botom left is more like body of swan, cobras dont get thicker in the bottom. But they dont expecty you to relly get a great look at it because they show it quickly.
 
Posts: 16 | Registered: 29 September 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post