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Key Points from "Cabin Fever"

A moving island ... well, that certainly mixes things up.

Another great recap...a 'moving island'...sheesh. Maybe the 'perception' of where the island is, and not the actual location, can be changed through some electromagnetic hocus-pocus. BTW, the anagram solver tells me 'Mittelos' is 'Lost time'...

The test Richard gave to young Locke (choosing items that belong to him) is the same test used by Tibetan monks when searching for the reincarnation of the Dali Lama.

Thanks Mac. GRAA!

Having speculated on this show for a couple of years, I finally hit one square on the nose!

Yesterday I said:
"I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Aaron & Jacob are connected in some profound way. Maybe Aaron is like the child who will become the next Dalai Lama; people have been looking for him . . . and he fell into their laps."
That is 1 out of 682! I'm on a roll now Baby.

A moving island. Hmmmm. That was suggested way back when. I am certain of that because I distinctly recall dismissing the idea with a condescending "P-tooey".

Shortly after the last eisode I wondered if Christian had his white shoes on when he was with Claire because I was thinking if Christian wasn't wearing them, it isn't the same Christian who visits Jack. Someone in the other room (that's down the hall from Mac's review) said Christian was NOT wearing his suit or his white shoes...so, I dunno. I do not know. But it's pertinent.

Interesting how Horace was on a loop..."Hello!" Same tree is felled several times. Thank goodness he isn't really deadly alive.

Keamy is a bad man.
Lapidus is a good man. He tells Michael something like, "I am the only person in the world who thinks that 815 wreckage is fake." Which brings me back to what I consider to be the biggest, most confounding mystery thus far on this show: Why would the world believe that plane fell into the sea 4000 miles in the opposite direction of it's flight plan? And how is it explained that the plane is whole and sitting at the bottom of a deep sea trench with its passengers still strapped in their seats?


Gotta run....I have to go to a job interview. Please send "hire the tall broad" vibes. Thanks.

Is Claire dead? She was way too hunky-dory in the cabin.

Is it weird to be totally unconcerned that bad things will befall the island or its residents? I feel all "the Island will kick mercenary ass" about it.

Ben isn't done; he's just sitting on the chess board waiting for the right move.

WARNING. Directionless meanderings of the mind follow

I do believe the island will move in time, not in space. The real question is whether the island actually exists in space as we know it. How will that help now that the killers are already on the island?

There seem to be no end of connections being formed on the island. In the end it is possible that vrtually everyone who is anyone will have a relation on the island. Clair and Jack. Maybe Aaron and Jacob. How about Ben and John?

Who, WHO, was Ben's dad? That has to fit in and be a revelation.

So the island was working John for years and years? Interesting.Does this imply that the events on the island really are caused by the island and not Dharma or Ben or whoever, and that the Richard's of the world are essentially servants to the island's will?

Who sunk the plane in the ocean? It might be that Widmore didn't. Who else? Does it actually matter at this point? When the Oceanic 6 are rescued, will someone ask the obvious question or is that a point that will just fade into oblivion?

How do the Losties end up on a C-130? It looks, based on the short preview, to be the grey of a Navy C-130. Or is that just a tease and a false lead?

It was interesting to me that while Ben seemed to back off of his role of island leader, and John took over, Hurley just stood by. Past episodes have indicted that Hurley might have more of a connection to the island than was shown on last night's episode. And when Ben admitted he was not always the leader, is that an indication that Richard might be on the rise?

Anyone want to bet that the killers are on the way to the tabernacle? Might we FINALLY see the remainder of the Others, just in time to be killed?

Just as a comment regarding inconsistancies. I live on a lake. A big, BIG lake. I do lots of boats. You cannot stuff many people in a 14-foot soft-bottom Zodiac. And such a boat is not made for open water. Think how long it took for the flight from the freighter to the island. No way is sayid going to make it there and back in that Zodiac. I am also assuming the error in the bearing was a simple miss and not intended to be significant.

Regarding the tracking device, I wonder what the intent was. Follow us? To the killing fields? Yet what other intent would someone on the ground have? I do wonder why they would have flown past the beach which was obviously well lit. My guess is that the intent is to find Ben, not the Losties. They think they know where Ben is.

Jack. Oh, Jack! Give me a break. Pardon me for expecting some degree of reality. Up and about already? PLEASE!

I still don't know what to think about Claire and Christian being in the cabin instead of Jacob. Why them? What do they have to do with the island's power?

I liked the endless loop in John's dream. The same tree was chopped down several times. Does the cabin disappear (when they couldn't find it last time) and need to be rebuilt by dead people on a regular basis?

In the end will we have an entire show based on dead people?


Good luck on the interview, Dauntless. Knock 'em dead.

"Time" and "Space" are two aspects of the same thing. When Locke said 'move the island', moving it through timespace seemed to me to be what he had to mean. Everything we've been shown in the current season says that the island exists on the other side of sime timespace horizon that puts it beyond ordinary perception and casual vectors of travel. Saving the island by moving it has to mean a great deal more than longitude and latitude shifts.

Locke episodes are so much more fun than Jack and Kate episodes. Locke is at the center of the opposing forces attempt to control the island from the moment of his birth.

Ben and Hurley's Lifesavers Moment might have been the best 30 seconds of Lost ever.

Thanks mac—great review as always!

What struck me after watching this episode was that recent events have been like the classic "15" puzzle—each week one or two more pieces have been moved into place to set up the season finale.

Random observations:

I got the impression that Emily's ice-queen mother did know Richard when she saw him through the nursery window, although not because he's Locke's biological dad...I thought Richard might have been Emily's dad who had abandoned Mrs. Locke & Emily, or perhaps Richard & "Mrs." Locke were never married themselves & Emily herself is illegitimate.

Did anyone else think that Emily didn't look pregnant at all? And why did Emily freak out & run when the nurse told her she could hold John for the first time?

Has Locke spent his life avoiding his density (pardon me, destiny)? He likes to think of himself as an outdoors guy, a sportsman, a hunter (& who was it in a past episode that told Locke he was a hunter?). But Richard Eyeliner was extremely put out when Locke chose the knife, & Locke's science teacher told him flat-out that he wasn't the sports type. Or is it that the others are trying to force Locke into the scientific cast due to their own blindness & Locke's been struggling to find his real hunter self for his whole life? (In which case it would be ironic that Anthony Cooper, the absent, deceiving, & self-centered crook of a father was the one to get Locke tuned into his inner Rambo.)

I thought the word to describe Claire in Jacob's cabin was "sultry." It would be easy to imagine her saying, à la Mae West, "Why don't you come up and see me sometime?"

Christian's suit must be at the Dharma cleaners.

Re Horace in Locke's dream: It was definitely odd how Horace started to repeat himself (Max Headroom-ish?). I wondered if Horace is caught in a time loop of repeating the same few actions & words over & over & Locke happened to drop in. And was it really a dream? We saw Locke wake up...but w/as wacky as things can be on the island it could be equally likely that Locke actually saw Horace, then returned to his sleeping spot, fell asleep again, & then awoke. (I'd wake up too if Ben was staring at me.)

Meanwhile, back at the ranch/freighter...Keamy (what a funny name; I thought it was Kearny for the longest time) is turning into The Terminator. IMHO, he looks like a character from a videogame—very flat & two-dimensional. Also, someone over in the review blog said that the device Omar strapped on Keamy was a sophisticated heart monitor. My initial thought was that it was explosives, but Keamy doesn't seem like the type of person who would sacrifice himself. Anyone else, yes, but not himself.

How many factions are on the freighter at this point? How many different motivations did each group/person have? How many people think they're working for one group/person only to find they're not?

More on who's on what side: Right now I'm inclined to think that Richard Eyeliner & Matthew Abbadon are on different sides, although I'm not sure that I'd say opposing sides because of the difficulty in figuring out just how many sides there are. Richard & Abbadon do seem to be urging Locke in different directions; Richard was unhappy that Locke picked up the knife while Abbadon made a point of telling Locke that on a walkabout you have nothing but a knife (& your wits).

As far as the heading Sayid was told to follow to get back to the island...maybe the freighter's drifting around the island? Maybe the island is turning in a circle? Maybe the compass heading is only needed to get into the wormhole?

Re the book in Richard's grab bag of objects: I couldn't read what the bottom word on the book's cover was, but I kept thinking it was "Kells" due to the ornate design on the cover. But "Kells" wouldn't make any sense out in the South Pacific...

Re Ben & Hurley's sharing a snack: I loved that scene too. It would even make a great commercial for an Apollo bar.

How the O6 get off the island: I think the Zodiac boat is just to get Sayid back on the island to be part of the showdown. We also now have Frank & his helicopter on the island, which would be a better choice for rapidly ferrying people. And it did appear that the O6 were on a giant cargo plane.

Final random thought: If Dharma/Hanso/Widmore were keeping the island a secret, why would there be a radio transmission of the numbers in plain view (so to speak)? Sam Toomey & Crazy Leonard were able to pick up the transmission whie in the military...wouldn't there be some interest by the military or amateur radio experts on what this string of repeated numbers meant & where it's coming from?

undaunted, good luck on the job interview!

Alias, I read the purpose of the device on Keamy's arm as part of a failsafe plan on the part of Widmore. Widmore knows that if Keamy dies, then hell's a-waitin for everyone nearby. I'm thinking some sort of scorched earth plan. So, the idea of it being a heart monitor is very possible. The moment it stops transmitting a heartbeat..... BOOM!

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Originally posted by LOST_MY_HEAD:
Alias, I read the purpose of the device on Keamy's arm as part of a failsafe plan on the part of Widmore. Widmore knows that if Keamy dies, then hell's a-waitin for everyone nearby. I'm thinking some sort of scorched earth plan. So, the idea of it being a heart monitor is very possible. The moment it stops transmitting a heartbeat..... BOOM!

yes, I was thinking much the same. It is on the inside of his arm where you would get a good pulse signal. But blow up what? You can't carry enough explosives on your person to damage much more than a very small area, especially in the wide open spaces of the island.

Well, the way I see it, Widmore probably has enough scratch lying around to get some pretty nasty weapons. The signal goes out... it gets recieved by someone who then signals a plane to drop said weapons on the island. And since there is a transmitter, shouldn't be as hard to find the island.

Thank you for your good thoughts. The interview went very well; they told me they wish they could clone me! But it's just a temporary position; still...a job! I'll keep you posted.

OK.LOST:

LOST MY HEAD: That's a good point! I'll bet you are correct. But then pagecarl...that's a good point too. Do you suppose Keamy and his evil minions wired the island for explosives when they were there before? Or perhaps there has always been a "fail safe" device on the island, ready to be detonated if deemed necessary.

More importantly: Ben is trying to save the island but it appears as though who ever Keamy is working for intends to destroy the island.
That really puts the battle for the island in a different light. Does Widmore (or whoever) want the island specifically so he can destroy it?

Horace: I wonder if John's dream was "broadcast" into his consciousness? The loop we witnessed indicates a haywire mechanism of some sort. On the other hand, LOST or no LOST...dreams are peculiar little things. I've certainly dreamed stranger things than looped dialog.

I have to tread lightly with this one because I fear my head might explode: It seems a bit much for them to physically move the island from it's current geographical location to another geographical location. So, it seems a move in time is what they will do. But how do they do that? Wouldn't you have to go way back or way forward to a time that the island didn't/doesn't exist? But then the island would exist in the same spot, just a different time. So some guy is rowing his boat in 1575 BC or in 3082 AA (after Aaron) and he'd still hit the island. So how the hell do you hide a bloody island when everybody who's looking for it knows it's geographic location? The only way is to physically move it. Right?

Ben is just going with the flow. He didn't look upset to me about the changing of the guard; in fact I thought he looked as mellow as I've ever seen him. He looked like he might just shrug his shoulders and say, "So it goes."

But Claire...how oddly she behaved! Like she was stoned. Too mellow. Not serene, like: I am dead; it is as it is. You are right Alais...Sultry is exactly the right word to describe her demeanor, as though we caught her in the immediate afterglow of an astoundingly fine orgasm.

Interesting that Locke didn't say (he might yet say it in a future episode) I didn't talk to Jacob, I talked to Christian.

I wonder if the freighter will take the O6 to Fiji and then the C-130 will transport them to the real world? That way Desmond could get off in Fiji as a crew member and find his way to Penelope without arousing suspicion. Although, why it would arouse suspicion is beyond me since he was lost at sea...why wouldn't he have survived on the same island they found the O6 on? Or maybe the freigher will take them to somewhere in the Indian Ocean, near the staged wreck and the rescue plane will pick them up there.

I'm going to beat a dead horse here: Is the explanation for OA815 in the Indian Ocean going to be it was hijacked? How is it going to be explained that the intact plane spew out 8 people before it dove gently into the sea and settled unbroken in a deep sea trench?

Or does the appearance of the O6 open an ugly can of worms about that plane at the bottom of the sea?

That's all I got.

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To be honest, my scenario was a hypothetical, the central idea of a failsafe is, I think, the only important idea to take from it. Your idea of the island always having been rigged or Keamy's men rigging it on their first island foray are also very good scenarios. Its like chess, sending in your pawns to set up mate. And since games seem to have a central theme (i.e. John and Backgammon) we must entertain the idea that everything up to now has been one grand game. Widmore goal, or conditions for victory may involve the island's capture or destruction and Ben's may involve some other location. Maybe THAT is why he spends time off island globe trotting.

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Originally posted by undaunted:
Thank you for your good thoughts. The interview went very well; they told me they wish they could clone me! But it's just a temporary position; still...a job! I'll keep you posted.

OK.LOST:

I have to tread lightly with this one because I fear my head might explode: It seems a bit much for them to physically move the island from it's current geographical location to another geographical location. So, it seems a move in time is what they will do. But how do they do that? Wouldn't you have to go way back or way forward to a time that the island didn't/doesn't exist? But then the island would exist in the same spot, just a different time. So some guy is rowing his boat in 1575 BC or in 3082 AA (after Aaron) and he'd still hit the island. So how the hell do you hide a bloody island when everybody who's looking for it knows it's geographic location? The only way is to physically move it. Right?

Ben is just going with the flow. He didn't look upset to me about the changing of the guard; in fact I thought he looked as mellow as I've ever seen him. He looked like he might just shrug his shoulders and say, "So it goes."

But Claire...how odd she behaved! Like she was stoned. Too mellow. Not serene, like: I am dead; it is as it is. You are right Alais...Sultry is exactly the right word to describe her demeanor, as though we caught her in the immediate afterglow of an astoundingly fine orgasm.

Congrats on the good interview; I was sending you strong/competent/trustworthy vibes all day.

Since no one can find the island without heading 305, moving it in space doesn't mean anything. Must be space/time. We originally thought after the hatch blew up, people would be able to find the island. But that has been proved wrong - Desmond couldn't escape, Penny still hasn't quite found them, they keep mentioning heading 305.

I thought Ben looked like he was expressing some genuine emotion, the only time we've seen it except for Alex's death. He's just not a very expressive person. That's how he controls everything anyway. It's easier to convince people to follow you when you behave calm & rational. But he accepted that's the way the island is working & is scheming to put it to his advantage.

I think Claire is definitely dead. She was killed by the head wound - we don't know exactly when, but I think she died in her sleep and that's when she "woke up" & saw Christian. All stoned jokes aside, that's the only reasonable explanation. Now here's an opportunity for her to figure out she's Jack's half-sister and tell him. Maybe in-between Kate's trial & Jack living with her. And maybe orgasms are better after death. If there is a heaven, what could be better?

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Originally posted by undaunted:
But Claire...how oddly she behaved! Like she was stoned. Too mellow. Not serene, like: I am dead; it is as it is. You are right Alais...Sultry is exactly the right word to describe her demeanor, as though we caught her in the immediate afterglow of an astoundingly fine orgasm.

Yes, exactly...but considering the only guy around is her dad, that rather grossed me out. Hopefully there's a more respectable explanation for her post-coital glow!

undaunted, you mentioned beating a dead horse, which brought to mind Kate's horse, even though he/she is in the undead category, along w/Christian & Yemi. Why are those three undead—what do they have in common? And why just those three, & not, say, Vincent?

I just stumbled upon this little tid-bit from Season 2 episode 9/ What Kate Did....

This was after Eko & John watched the Dharmite movie.

EKO: Hello. I have something I think you should see. If you don't mind, I will begin at the beginning. Long before Christ the king of Judah was a man named Josiah.

LOCKE: Boy when you say beginning, you mean beginning.

EKO: At that time the temple where the people worshipped was in ruin. And so the people worshipped idols, false gods. And so the kingdom was in disarray. Josiah, since he was a good king, sent his secretary to the treasury and said: "We must rebuild the temple. Give all of the gold to the workers so that this will be done." But when the secretary returned, he had no gold. And when Josiah asked why this was the secretary replied, "We found a book." Do you know this story?

LOCKE: No, I'm afraid I don't.

EKO: What the secretary had found was an ancient book -- the Book of Law. You may know it as the Old Testament. And it was with that ancient book, not with the gold, that Josiah rebuilt the temple. On the other side of the island we found a place much like this, and in this place we found a book. [Eko unwraps the book and pushes it toward Locke] I believe what's inside there will be of great value to you.

[Locke opens the book. A square has been cut out, and inside is a piece of film.]

so....what does it mean? I dunno, but there you have it.

I think the monitor on Keamys arm is for if he fails his mission it will blow the freighter up so noone finds out what they were up to

Thanks for the good vibes Hurling; they worked

Alais: My short answer is: I dunno.

But I can tell you this: I don't put the apparition of Yemi in the same category as Christian and the horse because Un-Yemi told Eko (in their final encounter), "You speak to me as though I am your brother." Which in my book is the same thing as saying, "I am not Yemi." Then he walked away, Eko followed, Smokey appeared and pummled Eko unto death. Maybe the apparition told Eko he wasn't Yemi because Eko was going to die so it wasn't neccessary for the UnYemi to maintain his cover any longer.

My point is that he is the only apparition that blew his cover. And immediately after he left, Smokey came in and killed a good man who had undergone a positive & profound spiritual transformation or whose circumstances had changed, releasing him from his soldier persona. He did not run from the ugliness he lived in in Africa and he did not run from the opportunity to change when his cicumstances changed. Eko was a helluva a pragmatist and he lived his life "It is as it is"; no apologies for coping. Pragmatism is an Undaunted family trait; "It is as it is" is our family motto.
So I might be being very subjective here!

Christian puzzles me. I'm wondering if White Shoes Christian is a different entity than In the Cabin Christian. Although maybe apparitions appear in the form of how they were last seen by the person they are appearing to? Jack's final encounter with his father was with a dead man dressed for the coffin, thus the incongruous white sneakers (no one would see his shoes) I have to check a clip of Claire's meeting with Dr. Dad to see if he is wearing the same clothes he wore in the cabin with Claire.

The horse is a puzzle too because that wasn't Kate's equine companion. He just appeared before the car wreck and lingered afterwards for a minute or two. It was the circumstance of his original appearance that ties him to Kate. She escaped from custoddy after the wreck. Avoidance.

In the real world, Kate, Jack & Claire all ran away from/avoided the people (horse) which now appear to them on the island. Is that the connection? They ran from reality rather than confronting it head on. I say Claire "ran" from Christian because she didn't even want to know his name when they met.

I think Vincent is alive so he isn't included in the apparition category. All that luggage washing ashore none the worse for wear was a hint that Vincent made it out alive. But I do think Vincent is being used as a messenger.

Claire's sultry demeanor: If she had a severe blow to the head, I wonder if her uncharacteristic demeanor is a result of that injury? I have told you all before that my Sweetheart suffered from seizures after a stroke. At one point he had "mirth" seizures...the damndest thing I ever did see! Everything was hilarious and silly. Everything! Constant giggling was totally uncharacteristic. They were the result of seizures in his temporal lobe which in my family we now refer to as "The Party Lobe".

Mikeyraw: I hadn't considered that! That makes sense.

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Originally posted by undaunted:
I just stumbled upon this little tid-bit from Season 2 episode 9/ What Kate Did....

This was after Eko & John watched the Dharmite movie.

EKO: Hello. I have something I think you should see. If you don't mind, I will begin at the beginning. Long before Christ the king of Judah was a man named Josiah.

LOCKE: Boy when you say beginning, you mean beginning.

EKO: At that time the temple where the people worshipped was in ruin. And so the people worshipped idols, false gods. And so the kingdom was in disarray. Josiah, since he was a good king, sent his secretary to the treasury and said: "We must rebuild the temple. Give all of the gold to the workers so that this will be done." But when the secretary returned, he had no gold. And when Josiah asked why this was the secretary replied, "We found a book." Do you know this story?

LOCKE: No, I'm afraid I don't.

EKO: What the secretary had found was an ancient book -- the Book of Law. You may know it as the Old Testament. And it was with that ancient book, not with the gold, that Josiah rebuilt the temple. On the other side of the island we found a place much like this, and in this place we found a book. [Eko unwraps the book and pushes it toward Locke] I believe what's inside there will be of great value to you.

[Locke opens the book. A square has been cut out, and inside is a piece of film.]

so....what does it mean? I dunno, but there you have it.

A VERY good catch! I think what it means is that the writers were giving us just another connection. At the time of the scene you descride it was about Eko and his religion and about the film. The Book of Law was just a vessel to carry and conceal the film.

Now, however, we see the connections. The first connection might be to where Eko found the book. Was it the tabernacle wherre the Others are now hiding and our killers are likely heading? We have not yet been there.

A second connection is to John as a child. Clearly John was seeing future events when he drew a picture of Smokie. Richard was testing him to see what other "visions" John was having.

Several of the items presented to John are fairly easy to interpet.

The knife is curious to me. Is it intended to be a connection to the Black Rock, which it appears to be? If this is the case, we have not yet seen the tie-in back to the Black Rock.

Or was it a connection to John's current knife obsession? If this is the case, Richard certainly got it wrong since a knife was certainly in John's future on the island.

And again, we come to the time travel element. Is Richard going back and forth with advanced knowledge of what the grown-up John will do on the island? We really don't know much about Richard. He is an active element in several instances but fades completely away. What is this "school" he wants to take John to? What other characters might be shown to have gone to this special school? It is quite the tidbit to not be developed just a bit more as a connection between characters. "We went to the Lostie island school."

And what role does Richard play on the island? He was likely the leader before Ben. Which faction, if any, does he work for? Was he the leader but lost his connection to the island as Ben seems to have done?

And most importantly, so you got the job, Dauntless?