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Spartacus, there is no way - in fact, in one of the interviews, JJ said that this is not is someone's head and that it is not a hallucination/people going crazy, etc.

Besides, that would make the entire show pointless, like horror stories that wake up from a dream in the end. X(


Where did you hear this? Can you provide a link or anything? It's not that I don't believe you, just punches a hole in my theory and I am not happy about that...
 
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Battlestar Galactica starts July 15.
 
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The new "Battlestar" is fantastic. Anyone looking for a TV fix during the summer months needs to give it a look.


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Scenario Two: This one leans way more heavily into the scifi aspects. Once again, Oceanic Flight 815 crashed AND it arrived at its destination. The aircraft hit an abnormaility in space and time, which somehow threw one version of the plane into a crash while the other continued onward. Other craft have also been affected by this phenomenon, like the Bermuda triangle, except this time one craft made it back!


"Missing time" is also a common factor in a lot of alien abduction stories, and it looks like there are at least 3 minutes unaccounted for. (I think it'll be more than that - they also have to address the plane being 1000 miles off course, which is like another hour or two of travel depending on HOW it's off-course. A flight of that mileage would be around 2.5 hrs in the US.)

But that doesn't mean that I think aliens are involved. Just that when you get into discussing "missing time" issues, they are a common cinematic indicator of impending alien involvement. In this particular case, it looks like the Wacky Issue is not so much missing time as a "dimensional split." (IE, reality splits into two possible realities, for whatever reason and with whatever outcome.) I dunno that I'd go that way either.

It's probably a Rambaldi device that's to blame. Big Grin
 
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Holy cow, Confused, you just had to call me on that?? :P This took me a day of solid back-peddaling to dig up, but here it is:


"Lost" co-creator J.J. Abrams appreciates the fans' creativity.

"The purgatory one is a great one, I love that theory — but it isn't what it is. I'd be frustrated if that were the answer I have to say," he said.

So the survivors are not in purgatory and it's not a dream. And producers say there is a logical explanation for everything.


For the full story/interview, go to:
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Entertainment/story?id=732221&page=1
 
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Awesome. Thanks.

Crap... I am going to quit comming on here. People keep punching holes in my idea. The whole idea isn't shot, but it sure is missing some pieces.
 
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Aw... Don't give up. We're all floundering here with holes punched in our theories. Smiler
 
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okay here is a theory. did anybody see the movie with Swartzenegger "The Sixth Day". well arnie wakes up in the cab and goes all through the movie and we come to find out he is the clone. his other self was the real him the whole movie. Well it is impossible to survive a plane breaking apart in the sky. so one of two things.

They are clones waking up with implanted memories of there "real" selves as part of a genetic experiment. this would explain Locke walking cause his clone was never injured.

OR

there real selves are on the island and they have been replaced on the flight for some reason.
 
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Hull -- Or, it could be the single greatest movie trailer in history. The upcoming movie "The Island" centers on a similar clone plot Wink


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D'oh that's right the Island has Ewan Mcgregor. Oh and about your comment on June 6th. That new Battlestar is awesome!
 
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Yeah, "Battlestar" is filling in quite nicely during the summer season. I highly recommend checking out the 2003 mini-series as well. It's 3 hours well spent.

Incidentally, if there are any fellow "Battlestar" fans out there who'd be interested in running a forum and/or blog, email me.


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Here's one last scenario which I haven't been able to think through yet. What Joss said makes some sense if we are dealing with a government secret experiment... involving clones. The Lostaways only think they have crashed on this island. Very elaborately staged, but staged nonetheless. Just think a moment - why was Jack lying so far out in the jungle in Pilot? How could anyone have survived a crash of this magnitude with only scratches'?


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if the flight left from sydney 4 minutes late...then arent there really only 3 lost minutes?

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I set up a fake container to receive the emails.

Here's the pull for 815 from that site. See anything familiar?

Flight: #815
Status: Alert
Airport: SYD
Scheduled: 14:04
Actual: 14:08
Gate: 15
Airport: LAX
Scheduled: 03:16
Actual: 03:23
Gate: 42

Who said there was no 42F? There's a 42F. WHen I loaded it up, only one seat was shown as filled...9E Carlyle, Boone. HHHmmmmm....is it possible an Artz seat will be filled? WHOA! I clicked on Boones seat. It flashed an image of Boone several times. Now the seat, 9E is no longer shown as occupied...it was green...

Something else is odd. The homepage says OceanicAir had financial difficulties in the wake of the 815 tragedy. Yet, the tracking pull shows the flight having ARRIVED in LA seven minutes late. WTF? A tragedy in arriving late? So, did it crash or was it late? Here we go with time theory again. Will it turn out in the amount of time the aircraft was late (Henceforth known as The Missing Seven Minutes) the Lostaways were able to live out an entire adventure?

This would imply Oceanic815 actually ARRIVES at some point (end of story?). Could the Others be people who couldn't make it back from their own trips...caught on the island with no way to return. If they did return, would they arrive Seven Minutes late as well?
 
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Just curious as to why an official site would do this when we examine it closely, and why no one has looked into this in the previous posts:

Oceanic Flight 815 AND Oceanic Flight 777.

To me, this means two distinct flights. So why are we privvy to seeing the seat locations for many of the Lost characters on a different plane??

Yeah, we see that Kate's toy plane becomes superimposed on the Oceanic Flight 777 image, but what the heck could all this mean? Especially as it could pertain to the wonderful theories posited?
 
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True, if I remember correctly we deduced that 777 doesn't refer to another flight but to the type of plane (Boeing 777; buy American! Wink ) that Oceanic 815 was on.
 
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I was referring to the arrival time in LA for the Seven Minute Theory.

Airport: LAX
Scheduled: 03:16
Actual: 03:23
Gate: 42
 
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it's looking more and more like my theory could actually hold water here (see the "my current theory" thread if curious)

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Hi, I'm actually in internet marketing and have a professional interest in marketers using the internet to add an interactive element to a campaign. In this case, using the Oceanic site to keep us busy during the summer. While messing around with the site this dawned on me:

- The site is part of the story - Not an insiders view of the TV Show!

What I am saying is, The producers WANT us to believe the show. Be involved as participants. Not remind us that we are watching a show! Therefore, the script on the front page of the web site is not from the show's production. It is from the Island's production. Whomever is controlling the island has a script! Some how the messages that people wrote in the bottle ended up on the web site. The interactive seating chart is a cataloging system for the island owner. Or whatever. It's all part of the same experience - we are part of the show. Not watching it.

If that is not the case then the site is adding a cool dimension to the show. But it is not PART of the show. And I highly doubt the producers would want that. Does this make sense?
 
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Hmmm...you could almost say it is quite...obvious? (enter Dr. Evil pinky to lip)

I'm on board with this because it is an original thought. The site and all the associated interactivity (to include the Driveshaft site?? Me asking knowingly...) are part of the entire epic.

Just one question, not trying to shoot a hole in this theory because I like it. But, why have images or objects associated with the Displacedaways when you click on the seats? Is this the island owner's bizarre sense of humor mocking us in our pursuit of tidbits of info?
 
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The internet has become another vast source for revenue (click share), statistical information gathering and demographic analyses. For every film made, you will find at least one 'Official Site' for added content; the same can be said of many TV shows.

I read just yesterday where a movie site has been upgraded to use a multi-user feature where you, a visitor, can see how many others are also visiting at the same time (and where on a virtual grid of the film they are!); can join forces to solve the sites clues which lead to more film content. This is simply good business sense. Start the fires of curiousity burning and keep fanning those flames.

And we all know how much entertainment value has been added by the fictional Oceanic site. It give me pause: Are there other sites getting the final touches applied, sanctioned by the showrunners, waiting to be sprung on the avid viewer with time on his/her hands? Hurley Industries? Paik Industries?

A final note: On the Official LOST Site, we have the diary which now implies the woman whose diary it is has been taken prisoner by the 'others'. This in itself will keep us checking back from time to time to see if a new 'page' has been added during the hiatus.
 
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Oh well, I thought I was on to something, but alas I am wrong. Digging a bit more into the site content you found stuff like on the Island Insider....

"If you answer correctly, you will be added to a special email list to receive communications directly from the LOST writing team. The Island, characters, mythology, symbology…you think you have what it takes? "

Unless the LOST Writing team is on the same lines of the movie The Truman Show I'm off on this one. IMHO if they were doing this right they would not break us out of character with the web site. I think this was a perfect opportunity wasted. They could of had us clicking through thousands of pages to find actual clues. And, as TrueWatcher pointed out Clicks = Page Views = Ad money.

Now, since the site is obviously set up as from the writers of the show, I only believe they will us the site to tease us but have no really information of any value.
 
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Ah yes, the diary site. I've enjoyed dropping in on the occasional entries, but what cracks me up is that they've resorted to the "record every little thing" syndrome. For example, the most recent entry provides a blow-by-blow account of an intruder sneaking up on the diary writer. It's all very dramatic and makes for fun stuff, but how many people do you know of who journal while under attack? Wink

I know. Nitpicky. I just found it funny.


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Re: any clone theory
I was reading the clone theory suggestions, and just wanted to point out that any such storyline will involve future or alien technology. A clone (with present, earth teachnology) would take a normal amount of time to grow to maturity, and would not have the memories (and possibly not an exactly similar personality) of the 'original'.
I don't think any cloning is going on, unless aliens and/or time travel is as well.
 
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Don't know if this has been posted but here's the DNS information for the Ocianic Airlines, website. I called the number, and it's for the network solutions company. I'm guessing the address if the same too.

Registrant:
Oceanic Airlines, Inc.
ATTN: OCEANIC-AIR.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
Phone: 570-708-8780

Domain Name: OCEANIC-AIR.COM

Administrative Contact :
Oceanic Airlines, Inc.
xj4c56zb7gc@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com
ATTN: OCEANIC-AIR.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
Phone: 570-708-8780

Technical Contact :
Oceanic Airlines, Inc.
xj4c56zb7gc@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com
ATTN: OCEANIC-AIR.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
Phone: 570-708-8780

Record expires on 20-Apr-2006
Record created on 20-Apr-2005
Database last updated on 15-Jun-2005
 
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There have been some new things added to the Oceanic Air web site...they are detailed here:
http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/thread?threadID=482234&forumStart=0
 
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Re: Rouseau's map ..... I was looking at the map today & notice the "other's" boat on the water. I don't recall seeing that before. I think I have an old copy of map when it first appeared & will look up. Did anyone notice the boat (to the right of the center crease on the map) when the map first came out???
 
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Seems like the site has some revisions, according to he ABC thread.

Flight 815 no longer shows an arrival. It now states "Alert." Also, Flight 572 reads Give us the boy. Are the Lost folks being cute? or are these clues?

Raft and Smoke image...
The top of the site states "Taking you places you've never imagined!" and has an image of an island, with raft and what appears to be smoke.

If you right mouse click on the image, you find out that it's a Macromedia Flash Player image. You can zoom in and move the image around....not that that's significant, but I'm wondering if there's a way to activate the Flash player.

Ray of light....
If you right click on the image and print, the printed image shows a lack of color by the smoke that could resemble a ray of light. It's only visible when you print it.

Don't have any insight into this, but thought I'd share it with the forum.
 
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This website reminds me more and more of the long entry lines that Disneyland/World have in which they put up things to take your mind off the looong wait to the ride.
 
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Found 3 new images on the site. In the home page for tracking flights, pick the Cities "THE" and "BOY." This will reveal a new image. Do it again and another image pops up.

Images are Claire's boarding pass, Post card and drawing from Walt's dad, and another drawing. The drawings have a NY theme.

The boarding pass seems unusual with no date, seat number or flight number.
 
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Has anyone noticed that in Sayid's passport photo his body and head are turned? Has anyone ever seen any type of photo ID on which the person is not standing square in front of the camera? His photo looks like it was part of a vacation picture. Did he alter the passport photo?
 
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Click on Pre-board Check-in. You'll find that Ethan Rom is a anagram. I don't know for what yet.
 
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send a chill up your spine?

Ethan Rom is a anagram for 'other man'....
 
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Go to the seating plan
click the 42F that is flashing near the bottom (below Economy Class)
Ana Lucia's seat shows up, when clicked the seating plan breaks in half and you can view the trailer, with Ana Lucia in it.
 
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The oceanic airlines website has clips of the next episode. All you have to do is push the numbers 4, 8, 15,16,23, and 42 like you would to see the teaser trailer that announces, they're not the survivors they thought they were. Watch the trailer and at the end, you will be taken to a site that has clips from the previous season. Click explore on the bottom. When the white dots appear, click on them. You'll have to watch a few reruns, but at the end, you'll a clip. I did this with the set of dots labeled The hatch. At the end I saw a clip of Locke lowering kate into the hatch by rope. She said that something was down there, and that she wanted to stop. Then, he slipped, she fell in, and a light shined out of the hole. I think it's the same light you see when you come to this website. It shows a night shot of the island with a beacon of light coming out of the jungle into the sky. Looks like the Morlocks got kate.
 
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I can confirm that Samuel Klemens is right, the site shows the spoiler for episode one of season two, once you goto explore goto the dot titled the hatch, follow the dots through, once you reach the end the trailer will play.
 
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"They are not survivors.." because zhey were saved by sombody else,in my op. by the Others ,they are not survivors ,because they are objects os a science research,so it's true what Locke says:they are on this island for a REASON.This reason is not clear for me at this time.They are alive, nor dead I think ,there is no any hallucination etc.I agree the timeline theory.
 
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"they are not the survivors they think they are" reminds me of an old riddle about a plane crash, oddly enough.
"A plane crashes on the border of the United states and Canada over the weekend. Where were the survivors buried?"
It's a trick, because survivors don't get buried.

Here also, there's something fishy about that line. In this case Survivor either means what it's supposed to, in which case they are dead or were never meant to die. Or it means something entirely different. Just as stumped as everyone else.
 
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I'm pretty sure they've already said something like, "No, everyone didn't die." & I'm thinking that "they're not the survivors they think they are" will wind up having to do with there being more survivors on the island who the main group don't know about.

But I think your idea that it means "they were never meant to die," is very interesting to think about, especially if you work through its implications. (By who? Were they captured? Led? etc...)
 
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While you're at the seating chart, click on 'Pre-board Check-In' at the lower right (green). You'll find a page that says 'Ethan Rom' with boxes below each letter. Rearrange the letters to spell something else and drag them into the boxes below. You'll get a nice surprise. Scroll down for the new words hint.



first word is 'other'
 
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Awesome clue! Thanks for pointing it out shakingthetree.

I guess this confirms that Ethan's anagram wasn't a coincidence Wink But here's a question: was the reworking of Ethan's name a writing trick or, did it extend to the show? Perhaps "Ethan" (or whatever his name was) gave a false name to Hurley and formed that false name from "other man" ...


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There is a seat 42F!

You need to find the blinking f next to the number 42 (under the words Economy Class). This will turn the seat 42f green and you will see the name Ana Maria. Once clicked...

Got to see it for yourself!
 
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I'm sure someone has discovered this tidbit from the oceanic-air website, however...has anyone unscrambled Ethan Rom to Other Man. This seems to indicate he is (was) definately on of the others on the island and not on the plane.
 
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wv_hiker: I ran into that too. What I found most interesting is that "other man" is now part of the official parlance of the show. Previous to the Oceanic site, the "other man" moniker was in the domain of fan speculation.

So it certainly looks like the unusual name "Ethan Rom" was very, very intentional.


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Bump!

(for the newbies who are now looking for such a thread.)
 
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If you click on the "Pre-board Check-in" you find that there is a puzzle you need to complete...I completed it and it ran a quick movie...but it went pretty fast so I wasn't able to catch anything right off the bat. I also noticed that the 'F' under the Economy Class seat numbers is always flashing??? Not sure what that signifies.
I appreciate everyones input...really keeps me thinking.. Confused
 
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They've slightly changed the text from Sally and Robert:

please get word I'm alive and stranded on an island somewhere in the South Pacific. Please send help soon. Things are bad. And they're getting worse...

Sally


I survived a horrific plane crash and am stranded on an island somewhere Northeast of Australia and Southwest of Hawaii. In the event that I am never found, please forward word of my fate to my parents.
 
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I found something interestng that I'm not sure has been mentioned...when you first log into the seating chart you'll notice that down below Economy Class are the numbers 11-42. The number 42 has an 'F' flashing beside it and if you're quick enough and click on the 'F' seat 42F turns green and it's Ana Lucia. Then the whole tail section of the seating chart breaks away along with some footage from the pilot episode. Then they show the clip from Jack's backstory where he's talking to A.L. in the bar and she says "Don't worry, the worst is over."

Has anyone else seen this???
 
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I found something interestng that I'm not sure has been mentioned...when you first log into the seating chart you'll notice that down below Economy Class are the numbers 11-42. The number 42 has an 'F' flashing beside it and if you're quick enough and click on the 'F' seat 42F turns green and it's Ana Lucia. Then the whole tail section of the seating chart breaks away along with some footage from the pilot episode. Then they show the clip from Jack's backstory where he's talking to A.L. in the bar and she says "Don't worry, the worst is over."

Has anyone else seen this???


yeah, a couple of people have mentioned that in this thread
 
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HI. have had a only a quick look to see if i can find this posted elsewhere so apologies if this is a duplication.

when you press 'search' here, http://www.oceanicworldair.com/ it takes you to the flight schedule. you can select different points on this schedule, all that take you to different links. This is the one that really got me!
http://thedharmainitiative.org/login.html
 
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This site is different from Oceanic-Air.com website. It has been mentioned on another thread - most likely a fan site & not associated with the show.

Looks like this site is looking to build an e-mail mailing list. I bet if you give your e-mail information, you are going to start receiving a lot of junk e-mails.
 
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