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I'd say lately we all have at least a 4-toed foot fetish. It's got my interest.
Wasn't one of the seven world wonders a huge statue of Zeus? Apparently it's been lost for a great amount of time now (I'd don't know how you'd misplace an enormous statue). Maybe the Black Rock people were theives who used the island as their headquarters due to it's ability to seemingly escape the eyes of any modern mapping technology. Maybe there are other treasures, or loot, on the island. There was also a statue of the Roman emperour Constantine the Great that is for the most part lost. There is part of a head and one of his hands somewhere displayed in Rome. Judging from the size of the hand, the statue must have been on scale with our 4-toed foot - it's also huge. |
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IF I had a foot fetish and built a humongous statue... the feet would have 6 or 7 toes- more to suck on.
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I'm assuming you mean the first list, ancient wonders? Everyone has a wonder now, apparently. Count how many you have seen or been to. I have a fair amount, but many to go. http://wonderclub.com/AllWorldWonders.html This is the statue of the god in whose honor the Ancient Olympic games were held. It was located on the land that gave its very name to the Olympics. At the time of the games, wars stopped, and athletes came from Asia Minor, Syria, Egypt, and Sicily to celebrate the Olympics and to worship their king of gods: Zeus. Location At the ancient town of Olympia, on the west coast of modern Greece, about 150 km west of Athens. History The ancient Greek calendar starts in 776 BC, for the Olympic games are believed to have started that year. The magnificent temple of Zeus was designed by the architect Libon and was built around 450 BC. Under the growing power of ancient Greece, the simple Doric-style temple seemed too mundane, and modifications were needed. The solution: A majestic statue. The Athenian sculptor Pheidias was assigned for the "sacred" task, reminiscent of Michelangelo's paintings at the Sistine Chapel. For the years that followed, the temple attracted visitors and worshippers from all over the world. In the second century BC repairs were skillfully made to the aging statue. In the first century AD, the Roman emperor Caligula attempted to transport the statue to Rome. However, his attempt failed when the scaffolding built by Caligula's workmen collapsed. After the Olympic games were banned in AD 391 by the emperor Theodosius I as Pagan practices, the temple of Zeus was ordered closed. Olympia was further struck by earthquakes, landslides and floods, and the temple was damaged by fire in the fifth century AD. Earlier, the statue had been transported by wealthy Greeks to a palace in Constantinople. There, it survived until it was destroyed by a severe fire in AD 462. Today nothing remains at the site of the old temple except rocks and debris, the foundation of the buildings, and fallen columns. Description Pheidias began working on the statue around 440 BC. Years earlier, he had developed a technique to build enormous gold and ivory statues. This was done by erecting a wooden frame on which sheets of metal and ivory were placed to provide the outer covering. Pheidias' workshop in Olympia still exists, and is coincidentally -- or may be not -- identical in size and orientation to the temple of Zeus. There, he sculpted and carved the different pieces of the statue before they were assembled in the temple. The base of the statue was about 6.5 m (20 ft) wide and 1.0 meter (3 ft) high. The height of the statue itself was 13 m (40 ft), equivalent to a modern 4-story building. The statue was so high that visitors described the throne more than Zeus body and features. The legs of the throne were decorated with sphinxes and winged figures of Victory. Greek gods and mythical figures also adorned the scene: Apollo, Artemis, and Niobe's children. The Greek Pausanias wrote: On his head is a sculpted wreath of olive sprays. In his right hand he holds a figure of Victory made from ivory and gold... In his left hand, he holds a sceptre inlaid with every kind of metal, with an eagle perched on the sceptre. His sandals are made of gold, as is his robe. His garments are carved with animals and with lilies. The throne is decorated with gold, precious stones, ebony, and ivory. The Seven Wonders of the Ancient World * The Great Pyramid of Giza * The Hanging Gardens of Babylon * The Temple of Artemis at Ephesus * The Statue of Zeus at Olympia * The Mausoleum at Halicarnassus * The Colossus of Rhodes * The Pharos of Alexandria The Seven Wonders of the Medieval Mind * Stonehenge * The Colosseum * The Catacombs of Kom el Shoqafa * The Great Wall of China * The Porcelain Tower of Nanjing * The Hagia Sophia * The Leaning Tower of Pisa The Seven Natural Wonders of the World * Mount Everest * The Great Barrier Reef * The Grand Canyon * Victoria Falls * The Harbor of Rio de Janeiro * Paricutin Volcano * The Northern Lights The Seven Underwater Wonders of the World * Palau * The Belize Barrier Reef * The Galapagos Islands * The Northern Red Sea * Lake Baikal * The Great Barrier Reef * The Deep Sea Vents The Seven Wonders of the Modern World * The Empire State Building * The Itaipú Dam * The CN Tower * The Panama Canal * The Channel Tunnel * The North Sea Protection Works * The Golden Gate Bridge The Seven Forgotten Natural Wonders of the World * Angel Falls * The Bay of Fundy * Iguaçú Falls * Krakatoa Island * Mount Fuji * Mount Kilimanjaro * Niagara Falls The Seven Forgotten Modern Wonders of the World * The Clock Tower (Big Ben) * Eiffel Tower * The Gateway Arch * The Aswan High Dam * Hoover Dam * Mount Rushmore National Memorial * The Petronas Towers |
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2 more Wonders . . .
Modern: The Three Gorges Dam. Talk about the undefeatable/fatigueless ego of man! The Reclining Buddha @ Bamiyan. Not sure yet, but its looking good that it has been found. or not. http://silkroadfoundation.org/newsletter/december/bamiyan.htm |
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Good additions! |
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thank you pagecarl. |
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Holy cow, Pagecarl & Intrepid. Those are interesting lists. I especially like the Forgotten Natural Wonders.
I Googled both the Statue of Zeus & the Colossus of Rhodes to see what images showed up...the Statue of Zeus appears to have been of him in a sitting position, which doesn't match up too well w/the four-toed remnant on the island. The feet of the Colossus of Rhodes are harder to see in any picture (aside from the fact that most of the pictures are of the statue astride the harbor mouth, which has been discredited for years). I found one picture in which you could see the right foot pretty clearly, though, & it had five toes. Captdan...you don't know the Duchess of York, do you? |
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Now that's more like it!
I'm making my way through all this stuff... good finds. |
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Four wonderous sites I would love to see:
Cappadocia, Turkey Machu Picchu The Alahambra in Granada, Spain Petra, Jordan. |
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Slightly off topic, but as long as we're discussing various wonders, if anyone runs across a copy of Richard Halliburton's Complete Book of Marvels (originally published in the late 1930s), do pick it up. It's huge & it's got wonderful pictures (dated now, but neat to see what they looked like then) of all kinds of places from around the world. Petra, Jordan, is one of them, as are the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World, including the Statue of Zeus & the Colossus of Rhodes.
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Great, Intrepid Machu Picchu is my next big trip. I have had several close friends go there within the past six months. I'm next! And the Alhambra is absolutely incredible. I stayed extra long (days) to see it before going down to Pamplona for the running of the bulls. |
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Oh man. Machu Picchu speaks to my soul. If you will, please say my name aloud when you are there; I think its as close as I'm likely to get. |
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Aside from the weather and vegetation, etc...destroying these ancient wonders, invading armies often literally crushed whole cities to gravel - probably for the fun of it, revenge, to insult the enemy's gods... However A valuable leftover from these conquests was stone. It was easier to scavenge than quarry. In Europe, after Rome withdrew around 400 AD the cities fell into chaos (with no roman military to keep control) and the people left for the countrysides, stripping the cities of much of their stone. In time Rome's formerly mighty presence just melted into the countryside. Many old structures throughout the ancient world contain these old stones. Much was used for fill and roads. A friend of mine from Syria said that most building foundations there are dug at at night because any shovel stuck in the ground will hit upon ancient detritus. If detected the minsitry of antiquities will shut down the site and delay construction. I don't if all this means anything in the LOST world, but I feel that we will run into the rest of this statue somewhere else. I suspect We'll find its head and it will have Henry Gale's face or something like that. |
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CaptDan, I think you underestimate the power of tides and waves as far as shaping a shoreline. On the tiny island of Saba (in the Caribbean, I'm moving there in ~1 month
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Lordfoul, I have to know, how did you manage a move to Saba? What a dream. Not only Saba, but surrounded by St. Croix, St. Kitts, St. Marteens and the BVI. Just the great underwater would make me cry for joy. When you get there will you ask around if they need any engineers? Yes, I am jealous. And I thought my dream of the ABC islands was special. This message has been edited. Last edited by: pagecarl, |
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PageCarl,
I am an extremely lucky individual and I know it. Anybody that has known me thinks the same, the luckiest SOB they have ever run across. This time my luck manifested itself in the following ways: a) I married a beautiful, smart young woman of Dutch ancestry that happened to be born on Saba. b) My in-laws happen to own a very nice house and piece of property on Saba. c) My very smart wife wants to go to medical school and there happens to be one on Saba. Just to further deepen your jealousy, the house is on the very edge of a 1500 ft. cliff overlooking Spring Bay. The view includes many islands including St. Martin, St. Barths, Statia, Nevis, Monseraat, and St. Kitts. From the front deck it literally appears that you are hanging over the ocean |
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But how's the internet connection?????? |
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Lordfoul, no jealousy, no envy. I am happy for this working out so well for you. Does your wife have a sister? Who wants to go to medical school? On Saba? I know that I fell in love with more than one Dutch woman on Bonaire. I would love to dive with you and hike in the hills above. It is so beautiful. Enjoy every minute. And Hurling, in the islands there isn't much need for internet or television. There really is a place of living in island time. |
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Pagecarl, you know I soooo wouldn't get it. |
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Yes folks, Saba is a little remote but does indeed have WI-FI on and around the med school campus and cable TV although I won't be getting that. I prefer books to TV as well and have plenty that I will be bringing along. I will be downloading my Lost eps. and can catch my Michigan football either on the internet or in the bar at the chinese restaurant if it is nationally televised. C'mon down PageCarl, we'll swim and hike.
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Lordfoul --- I didn't see anything about your wife having a sister? |
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Ha ha, nope! They broke the mold when they made her I'm afraid.
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Civilization ,as we know it has always had a way of "Immortalizing" its Deities/Icons. So, I'm not surprised about the statue, or its size. (Look at Ghiza pyramid, the Colossus of Rhodes etc) But like the monoliths on Easter Island, it's the location and oddity of the representations depicted that are surprising.
Why 4 toes? Well, you can come up with a few interesting ideas here. A "lost" civilization, the missing evolutionary missing link, humanoid-like alien figure??? It's open for debate. Where is the rest of it and what happened to it? Again, you can go in a lot of directions. Time took care of it (erosion???, but highly unlikely if you take in consideration that the break at the tibia is CLEAN AND SMOOTH. Yes, I know wind can smooth things out, but come on...) It was never finished??? It was destroyed? (again, I dont think so because there are no fragments or left overs anywhere in sight, and as mentioned in other posts, they would be visible, no??? The foot looks the size of Yankee stadium for christs sakes!!!) My best guess is that it was never finished. |
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PageCarl, perhaps it says Dr. Scholl's!!! |
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I spent my honeymoon in St martin overlooking Saba. It just loomed in the distance from our room and my husband and I liked to imagine what it was like there. It seemed so remote. This is cool to actually know someone moving there.For the record I went to Easter island last year . Very cool place. My daughter went to Machu Picchu,just watch the altitude she was really sick.
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Yes, I have had several friends get altitude sickness at Machu Piccu. There is actually another higher temple, another 1,000 feet up. Fortunately for me, I live at 4300 feet and am up to 7000 feet on a regular basis. When I go to sea level it feels like I am oxygen overloaded. |
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Hi Carl! Just a few tips please. I'm tired of making "noobie" mistakes and posting old "new theories" Could you guide me to your favorite threads and your favorite contributers please? I'd save my theories and could add on to existing threads instead of creating new ones...Thanks!
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Hey, Gunn-err, I'm not really sure why you addressed this to me. I am not really the guiding light of this forum. Far from it. If you really want a suggestion, here are a few. 1. Don't worry the least about being a so-called noobie. Everyone was at one time (although some choose to forget that time). 2. If you are interested in searching threads, use the FIND function using key words. HOWEVER Unless a thread or theory has just been beat to death (and some have) don't worry so much about re-posting or starting it over. Yes, someone will probaly flame you but at this point there are as many new forum members as old who might appreciate seeing a subject they didn't think to search. and last - HAVE FUN here - If your theory is dumb, someone will tell you - oh well! If your theory is brilliant, someone will re-print it in another thread under their own name - oh, well. WELCOME (oh, and just for the record, as many old timers will tell you, my favorite is - why in the heck don't the losties just climb to the highest peak and look around so we (and they) will know about the island - if it is an island) |
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LOL Thanks Carl. I adressed this to you because I enjoy your posts! Thanks again.
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Of course if you pursue infinite wisdom, check out "I'm Sparticus's" posts.
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Well, they're definitely infinite something...but wisdom wouldn't be the first word to come to mind. |
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lol Ive read a few posts ,and a few that really didnt have nothing to so with the show!!! After reading the comic book though, and putting it down as a new thread, I aint checking anything else,
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Ooooohhh geez, I hope Patcon doesn't see your post. He's our resident grammar and spelling enthusiast. Actually I haven't seen him around here lately. Where's Patcon?!?! |
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Sad, but I heard that Patcon moved on with these last words spoken of him; But today you just read that the man was shot dead By a gun that didn't make any noise But it wasn't the bullet that laid him to rest was The low spark of high-heeled boys Not really! I'm just goofin' |
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. . . or four toes! Reminds me of Jon Lovitz who played Emperor Todd in the flick Mom & Dad Save the World. All of the palace scenes in the movie had huge statues of Emperor Todd. When they finished shooting, Lovitz brought all those statues of him in imperial poses home with him and put them around his swimming pool because...well, because he's a very silly man. |
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Hee hee. Name that band...Traffic. How 'bout this epitaph (not for Patcon, just for fun)? Here lies Les Moore Shot by a slug from a .44 No Les No Moore |
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Close Alias, but not quite: Tombstone, Arizona (my state, although WAY down south from me, almost another world) Here Lies Lester Moore Four Slugs from a 44 No Les No Moore Lester Moore - a Wells, Fargo Co. agent in Naco, Arizona in the 1880's. Buried in the Boot Hill Cemetery (and tourist trap) in Tombstone, Arizona. And a good call on Traffic. I thought you were to young to know them? |
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Well, I didnt even see link with the Traffic song refrain, Woe to you, O' Earth and Sea For the Devil's sends a beast with Wrath (Because He knows the time is short) Let him who has understanding wreckon the Numbers of the Beast, for they are a human number.. It's number is 4.8.15.16.23.42 |
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Hey Pagecarl, thanks for the correction on Les's epitaph. The real version is much "punnier" than the one I remembered! Re Traffic & my age: It's the hat in my picture that makes me look so young. |
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And to me it is the rosy cheeks, not the hat . go figure |
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This is from the official lost recap.
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lo...ap#t=162212&d=201648 The Man in Black leaves and addresses the Man in White as Jacob. Yes, this is Jacob. The camera pulls back over the ocean, and we see they were sitting on the base of a giant stone foot. And next to the foot is another foot -- and both feet have four toes. And as the camera pulls back, we see what we've been waiting to see since we first glimpsed that four-toed foot over three years ago... the towering, majestic statue of the Egyptian goddess Taweret. And we clearly know we're a long time ago, so let's get the finale of season five started -- href="http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/taweret.htm" target="_blank">http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/taweret.htm Taweret - ancient Egyptian goddess of maternity and childbirth |
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Wow it seems everyone is back on this board chatting away again. This is great to see. The thing about the statue that most intrigues me is when was it brought down? It seems after the arrival of the black rock, but by whom and why?
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When did the statue go down? Could it have been blown up from the bomb?
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The man in black seems to be able to portray dead people on the island. Could that be why Jack's dad has been wondering the island. The man in black was him too? And then he finally got into someone who was a "leader" of the others and could influence someone to kill Jacob? I don't have a clue! I'm lost!
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I would think so, and he set him up to die wonderfully, made him think it was the "only way."
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