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Interesting, but I think it was acknowledged that Radzinsky is dead in an ABC podcast. We do know that the Others really love to make lists. Ethan and Goodwyn made lists for Ben. Ms. Klugh made a list to get Ben free. So I am not sure if Jacob may not be lower on the totem poll than Ben.
Don't believe Jacob is lower than Ben.
Have to give mad props. to YinYang. She has a thread topic dated Oct. 17, 2006, titled More Literary Tie-in Thoughts.
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I’m still thinking about the Adoption connection, maybe some kind of experimentation by which Hanso organises “adoptions” but actually then places the children in this Utopian society?
This kind of links up with a literary reference in the show.
I know a number of people have already mentioned Aldous Huxley’s “Island”, mainly because it is set on an island called Pala. Will Farnaby arrives there by chance or by destiny, much as the Losties have, and stumbles on a Utopian society.
Some of the principle practices of this society are:
- Drug use for enlightenment, and self-knowledge
- Group living for children (Mutual Adoption Clubs) so that children would not have exposure to their parents' neuroses
- Trance states for super-learning
- Assisted reproduction (low-tech donor insemination)
The Palanese identified two different types of children who would become dominant adults: drugs were used to control the personality of one type and the other was taught to engage in tasks that helped him work off his aggressions.
Does that ring any bells about Jack’s and Sawyer’s captivity?
BTW it also led me to interesting reflections on the names of the leading Others:
Benjamin – (Biblical) Jacob’s youngest son, name means "son of sorrow." Forced to be a slave in a foreign country.
Linus - (Greek Mythology) one of the bastard sons of Apollo, abandoned by his mother on a hillside.
Juliet – in Shakespeare’s play Juliet is the only surviving child of her parents and she rebels against their wishes.
Adam – rebelled against his (heavenly) father and also was pretty isolated there in the Garden of Eden, even with Eve around.
(Colleen, on the other hand just means “girl”.)
Later Hurling corrected some of YinYang's details with
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Benjamin is "son of my right hand." ben = son, yamin = right
He was the son of Rachel, Jacob's favored wife, and therefore a more highly honored child. Joseph was the one who was enslaved, and later threatened to imprison Ben after framing him for a theft. The Hebrews were not enslaved as a group until later when the Pharoah died and his successor feared their power.
Honestly, I'm Completely unaware of proper board educate.

So, I have probably broken some major posting regulation with this one. But since the board is becoming very arduous (54 pg) to date, it’s a real beat down trying to keep prior threads straight with new threads.
Just thought YinYang and Hurling should get credit and take a bow for the addressing the Biblical reference to Ben being Jacob’s favorite son. And now later Jacob is referenced.
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